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2010年4月28日 (水)

TOYOTAってすんごいのかも知れないと思った日

ちょっと前の事ですが、知り合いのごくフツーのおっちゃんが「TOYOTA MR-S」と言う車を中古で買って来まして、まぁほんとにフツーのごく単純にカッコいい車が好きなおっちゃんなのでまぁいいんでないの? と静観(シカトとも言う)してたんですけど(笑)、

それがこの頃なんだか色々とうるさい事言うようになったのだ。
(あーめんどくせーみたいな.....笑)

「あれかね? コレをもちょっとだけ速くしたいとか思ったらプラグとか換えてみればいいんかね?」
「......その車がきちっと整備されてる車だったらなんも変わらん。気分の問題だね。」
「いやでもパーツをイイのに換えたら少しは調子良くなるんじゃないの?」
「......まずはその車の状態がどうなのか? ってのが先でしょ? 悪い所が無いか探して直す方が先決なんだけど」

「んじゃさ、高速で120km/hぐらいになるとちょっとハンドルがブレると言うか、なんか危険な感じになるんだけどこれはなんで?」
「......MR-Sってミッドシップでしょ? エンジンが後にあって後っかきの車は最初からそう言う特性になってるの」

「いやでもさ、タイヤとかホイールがだめでそうなるのかと思って」
「もちろんフツーにはその可能性が高いんだけどね」

「......んで、ホイールにぶつけたような跡は無い!?」
「一本だけ派手にガリ傷がある」
「んじゃそれだ。アルミホイールなんかちょっとぶつけただけで簡単にひん曲がるんだから。運が良ければ(笑)アームとかハブとかも逝ってるかもよ」
「でも中古車屋は修復歴は無いって言ってたんだけど......」
「"修復歴"の定義ってね、一番わかり易く言うと"フレームまで曲がるような事故の車を直した"って考えるといいらしいよ。多少ぶつけて直してもフレームまで行ってなきゃOKなわけ。外板パネル全部交換してても"修復歴無し"になるらしいから」(笑)

「.......とりあえず、さ、トヨタのディーラーに出してオイル交換でもしてもらったら? で、そのついでのふりして(笑)中古で買ったんだけどどこか悪いとこ無いか見てくれる? って頼めばいいじゃん」
「いやだから買った中古屋は......」
「んなもん、なんも見てないに決まってるじゃん」

ここでちょいと話が変わって、

「いやーでも、カーブとかだとくいっくい曲がって気持ちいいんだよね。これでもちょっとだけ速くなったら面白いだろなと思うんだよね」
「......曲がってるうちは楽しいで済むだろさ」(汗)

「ミッドシップってね、タイヤの限界超えるとフロントから先に滑るわけ。ハンドル切ってるのにまっすぐ壁にドカーンとかね」
「いやでも全然問題なく曲がるぞ」
「だから、......曲がってるうちは幸せなんだってば。フロントが逃げた時にどうするかって考えながら走らないと、ヘタすりゃ死ぬよ」

てな事を延々しゃべってはみたものの、たぶんこのおやじ何にも意味わかってないよなぁ。

そんなわけでつくづくと、こんなフツーのおやじがミッドシップを買ってしまうような商売をするTOYOTAってすごいよなぁと思ってしまったのです。もう色んな意味でね。(大汗)

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うひゃひゃひゃ・・・コメントできないし(笑)

>> アルミホイールなんかちょっとぶつけただけで簡単にひん曲がるんだから

 まったくその通りなんですが,タイヤの空気抜いてそこそこのスピードで路肩を模した段差にぶつけて「曲がっちゃ駄目」という世界一厳しい社内基準を思い出しました.

isidaさん、

>コメントできないし(笑)
いやいやそんな事おっしゃらないでひとつどーか宜しく(笑)
#さすがにインターネットの場では無理でしょうからご指定の酒場まで出かけますよ〜ん。

>段差にぶつけて「曲がっちゃ駄目」
へっ?
.....t10の鉄チンホイールとかなんでしょか!?(爆)
#でもたぶん先にハブボルトが飛ぶな。
#アームとブッシュ、そのブラケットもたぶん逝くだろうからサブフレームごと交換ですな。(笑)

akira isidaさんってトヨタの方ですか?

某メーカー、ミニバン用純正アルミホイール、薄いタイヤ付けて・・・
某タイヤショップで「リムの内側が少し凹んでいてエアーが漏れています、ホイール交換となります」
パンクだと思っていたミニバンオーナー、タイヤシッョプのお兄さんに文句言ってます。文句言うのはあなたの運転しょう。とは口が裂けても言えません。「ファミレスの縁石とかキャッツ・アイ」でハンドルに強い衝撃受けたことありませんか・・。「修理出来ないのですか?」「凹みだけなら治る可能性はありますが歪んでいると修理不可能です」、ミニバンオーナーはパニックなっていました。
長くなりましたが、特に車重のあるミニバンに薄いタイヤは控えましょう。
ホイルについての最近の側で聞いたお話です。
えっ!私が某タイヤシッョプで何のタイヤ買ったかって?
いえいえ、ヌーテックオイル交換に行っただけです。

評論家おやぢさん
>たぶんこのおやじ何にも意味わかってないよなぁ。
 ちゅーか恐らくオトモダチになって欲しいんでしょうね。
 何れも多少峠を攻めて走れば体感する話だとは思うんですが??何もしないウチに話だけ聞いても何も判らないのでは?

>ハンドル切ってるのにまっすぐ壁にドカーンとかね
 以前乗ってたレオーネクーペもそれでしたね、更にアクセルの踏み具合でステア特性がコロコロ変わるんでタチが悪い。
 でも「この車曲がらへんやんけぇぇぇ」てな事言うてる内にタックインを覚えたりしてね。

 全くぷリ臼の欠陥騒ぎなんてチャンチャラオカピー位当時はもの凄い車ばっかでした。
 所でぷり臼の欠陥問題って?あれどう考えても欠陥じゃ無くて単なるドライバーが能無し&アホなだけだと思うですが??如何で?

117おやじさん

表現を間違えておりました
誤「そこそこのスピードで」
正「とてもゆっくり」
このBlogの常識に合わせないとね(笑).

それにしてもMR-Sって「いじると危ない」クルマの筆頭ですよね.開発した人達も「頼むから吊るしのままで乗ってくれ」と祈っていると思います.

GONさん

大昔に「作るほう」の側にいましたが,もっと西にあるメーカーですよん.

イノウエさん、

>凹みだけなら治る可能性はありますが
netで検索してみると一本数万とかの修理代になってますけど。(笑)

以前にも書いたんですけど、娘が某用品店に勤務してた頃に出た「ゼロクラウン」オーナーのおっちゃんが純正18インチ(!)タイヤを減らして交換しに来たわけ。
んでその交換タイヤのお値段聞いて「おまえんトコはボッタくってる、こんな店二度と来るかぁっ!!!!!」って怒り狂って、その数日後。
「あの値段でいいから換えて下さい」みたいな。(爆)

この場合、ドしろうとのおっちゃんを責めるよりは純正で18インチとか履かせるメーカーの良識を疑う方が先なんじゃないかなと思いましたね。

もっとも、
本文の事もそうですけどここでは別にTOYOTA一社をあげつらって批判しようなんて意図は全く無くて、現実にはどのメーカーも似たようなもんなんだしで(汗)、まぁ、売れなきゃしょうがないってのはわかるにしても皆さんもちょっと冷静になって車作ってよねと言いたかったわけです。

うんつくさん、

>評論家おやぢさん
誰だそれ!? (爆)

>オトモダチになって欲しい
あ、なるほど、そう言う事もあるわけね。(全く無関心......笑)

>何もしないウチに話だけ聞いても何も判らないのでは?
確かに。
問題はまぁそのおやじが本気で走る気があるのかってトコなんですけど、......それでそのネタがミッドシップとか言われても、いやーこっちは死人出すのは勘弁して欲しいしとか思っちゃうわけです。(マジで)

>レオーネクーペ
へっ? あれって「全日本ラリーベース」カーでしょ!? (笑)

>ぷリ臼
各方面で話題になってるようですのでコメントは控えさせて頂いております。(笑)
(つか、そもそも乗った事も無いし.........)

isidaさん、

>そこそこのスピード
ま、「うわkm/h」かなと思いつつ、つい勤務先で使ってる「TOYOTAフォークリフト」のホイールを思い浮かべてしまったのです。(アレは丈夫だよ〜......笑)

>正「とてもゆっくり」
>このBlogの常識に合わせないとね(笑)
お気遣い頂きありがとうございます。

>「いじると危ない」クルマの筆頭
とりあえず、お山でもサーキットでも見かける頻度が激しく少ないのは、つまりはそう言う意味合いからなんでしょうねぇ。自分でも乗ってみようって気は起きないですからね。

#でも同コンセプトのロータス エリーゼ/エキシージは大好きですけど。(笑)

起きちゃった(涙)。
おやぢさんご指摘
>「全日本ラリーベース」カーでしょ!?
 はいはい♪「ホモロゲ頂戴ねん」みたいなノリで作っちゃったクルマでしてエアコン・パワステ・パワウィンド・コンソールボックス・カーステレオ・カーペットが・・・全部無い(核爆)トンデモクルマでしたが楽しかったですねぇぇぇぇ(遠い目)。
 
逃げるおやぢさんを捕まえてとぉぉ!
>コメントは控えさせて頂いております
 旧型ぷり臼は親戚が乗っておりましてワタシも少しハンドルを握らせて貰ったんですが意外とよく走るイイクルマでしたヨ?
 一言で言うと「燃費の良いゲタ」でして・・欲しいとは全然思わなかったですケド。
 初代AWはもう欲しくて欲しくて何度か試乗させて貰いましたがシャシー(サス?)がフニャフニャでガッカリしたもののミッドシップと言う時点でワタシは完全にイッてましたね。
 結局金無くて諦めましたけどね。
 
>「TOYOTAフォークリフト」
 おお!トヨダさんじゃ無いけどニチユさんの運転講習会で乗せて貰いましたがバックスピンかけて遊んでたら・・・エラク怒られましたm(._.)m
さて寝るか・・・

車の安全性。
4輪ドラムブレーキだと雨の日に水入って
片効きして驚く とか、
マスターバックの無い車を経験するとか、
ブレーキ踏んでハンドル取られて驚くとか、
アイスバーンの上でアクセルオフでスピン
してみたりとか、

そう言う経験してどうすれば良いか考える
のも必要だと思うけどねぇ。
無知な人の運転速度が上がっているのが
とっても恐ろしい最近です(笑)

うんつくさん、

>はいはい♪「ホモロゲ頂戴ねん」みたいなノリで
ったくもう、時代的にはいすゞPF60〜PF ZZ-Rでしょうがね。あの頃はPFがめっちゃ強かってのに。(ぷんぷん)
#いすゞファンの風上には置けないおやじだよなぁ(ぷんぷんぷん)

>ぷり臼
えー、まったく興味ないス。ごめんね〜

>AW
時代的に完全TOYOTA製4A-Gの頃でしたからちょとねと言う部分はあったものの、とりあえずそのコンセプトを実現してしまった事には驚きましたね。
その後も都合三代に渡って進化・熟成させたTOYOTAの姿勢については非常に素直に興味深く評価させて頂いております。

この手のミッドシップのお手本としてのFは、この頃だとテスタとかですけど、Cピラーと言うかリアバルクヘッドと言うか、運転席とエンジンルームの間を仕切るガラスがあるんですけど、当時バブル的な面も相まって箱根あたりで本気で踏むようなFも少なくなかったらしくで、、......でもね、テスタでそれやるとそこのガラスが割れるんだって。(汗)
ミッドシップの師匠たるFがそんなもんだったんだから新参者のTOYOTAがやったらどうなるのかは......って話ですがね。

HONDA NSXでさえ、最初のモデルではボディ剛性の面でえらい苦労してたみたいですしね。

>ニチユ
勤務先にいっぱいありますよ〜ん。
現場インプレッションとしては、ま、ニチユの圧勝ですな。(笑)

worksさん、

>4輪ドラムブレーキだと雨の日に水入って片効きして驚く とか、
ミツビシJeepですね。(笑)

>マスターバックの無い車を経験するとか、
ミツビツJeepでしたねぇ(笑)

ブレーキ踏んでハンドル取られて驚くとか、
ミツビシ.....(しつこいか?)

>アイスバーンの上でアクセルオフでスピンしてみたりとか、
いっぱい経験あるけどミツビシJeepの時の破綻ぶりは最強でした。(笑)


色んな経験をして経験値を積んではじめて色々な事が出来て来るはずの流れをハナから無視してすべてフールプルーフを目指す、今時の車メーカーさんの思想自体について行けないんですよね。
そんなの絶対に無理だから。(汗)

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2. I’ll send messages to 19,000,000 email addresses and very intrusive advertisements for making money and offer a free iPhone with your website address pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com and your contact details.
And then send out abusive messages with the address of your site.
3. I will do aggressive spam on blogs, forums and other sites (in my database there are 35 978 370 sites and 315 900 sites from which you will definitely get a huge amount of abuse) of your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com.
After such spam, the spamhouse will turn its attention on you and after several abuses your host will be forced to block your account for life.
Your domain registrar will also block your domain permanently.

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life.
If you do not want to receive thousands of complaints from users and your hosting provider, then pay before June 1, 2019.
The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.
Otherwise, I will send your site through tens of millions of sites that will lead to the blocking of your site for life and you will lose everything and your reputation as well.
But get a reputation as a malicious spammer.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Hey. Soon your hosting account and your domain pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked forever, and you will receive tens of thousands of negative feedback from angry people.

Pay me 0.5 BTC until June 1, 2019.
Otherwise, you will get the reputation of a malicious spammer, your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked for life and you will be sued for insulting believers. I guarantee this to you.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Here is a list of what you get if you don’t follow my requirements:
+ abuse spamhouse for aggressive web spam
+ tens of thousands of negative reviews about you and your website from angry people for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your hosting account for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your domain for aggressive web and email spam
+ Thousands of angry complaints from angry people will come to your mail and messengers for sending you a lot of spam
+ complete destruction of your reputation and loss of clients forever
+ for a full recovery from the damage you need tens of thousands of dollars

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life. The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.

Do you want this?

If you do not want the above problems, then before June 1, 2019, you need to send me 0.5 BTC to my Bitcoin wallet: 19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

How do I do all this to get this result:
1. I will send messages to 33 000 000 sites with contact forms with offensive messages with the address of your site, that is, in this situation, you and the spammer and insult people.
And everyone will not care that it is not you.
2. I’ll send messages to 19,000,000 email addresses and very intrusive advertisements for making money and offer a free iPhone with your website address pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com and your contact details.
And then send out abusive messages with the address of your site.
3. I will do aggressive spam on blogs, forums and other sites (in my database there are 35 978 370 sites and 315 900 sites from which you will definitely get a huge amount of abuse) of your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com.
After such spam, the spamhouse will turn its attention on you and after several abuses your host will be forced to block your account for life.
Your domain registrar will also block your domain permanently.

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life.
If you do not want to receive thousands of complaints from users and your hosting provider, then pay before June 1, 2019.
The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.
Otherwise, I will send your site through tens of millions of sites that will lead to the blocking of your site for life and you will lose everything and your reputation as well.
But get a reputation as a malicious spammer.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Hey. Soon your hosting account and your domain pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked forever, and you will receive tens of thousands of negative feedback from angry people.

Pay me 0.5 BTC until June 1, 2019.
Otherwise, you will get the reputation of a malicious spammer, your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked for life and you will be sued for insulting believers. I guarantee this to you.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Here is a list of what you get if you don’t follow my requirements:
+ abuse spamhouse for aggressive web spam
+ tens of thousands of negative reviews about you and your website from angry people for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your hosting account for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your domain for aggressive web and email spam
+ Thousands of angry complaints from angry people will come to your mail and messengers for sending you a lot of spam
+ complete destruction of your reputation and loss of clients forever
+ for a full recovery from the damage you need tens of thousands of dollars

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life. The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.

Do you want this?

If you do not want the above problems, then before June 1, 2019, you need to send me 0.5 BTC to my Bitcoin wallet: 19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

How do I do all this to get this result:
1. I will send messages to 33 000 000 sites with contact forms with offensive messages with the address of your site, that is, in this situation, you and the spammer and insult people.
And everyone will not care that it is not you.
2. I’ll send messages to 19,000,000 email addresses and very intrusive advertisements for making money and offer a free iPhone with your website address pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com and your contact details.
And then send out abusive messages with the address of your site.
3. I will do aggressive spam on blogs, forums and other sites (in my database there are 35 978 370 sites and 315 900 sites from which you will definitely get a huge amount of abuse) of your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com.
After such spam, the spamhouse will turn its attention on you and after several abuses your host will be forced to block your account for life.
Your domain registrar will also block your domain permanently.

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life.
If you do not want to receive thousands of complaints from users and your hosting provider, then pay before June 1, 2019.
The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.
Otherwise, I will send your site through tens of millions of sites that will lead to the blocking of your site for life and you will lose everything and your reputation as well.
But get a reputation as a malicious spammer.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Hey. Soon your hosting account and your domain pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked forever, and you will receive tens of thousands of negative feedback from angry people.

Pay me 0.5 BTC until June 1, 2019.
Otherwise, you will get the reputation of a malicious spammer, your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com will be blocked for life and you will be sued for insulting believers. I guarantee this to you.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

Here is a list of what you get if you don’t follow my requirements:
+ abuse spamhouse for aggressive web spam
+ tens of thousands of negative reviews about you and your website from angry people for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your hosting account for aggressive web and email spam
+ lifetime blocking of your domain for aggressive web and email spam
+ Thousands of angry complaints from angry people will come to your mail and messengers for sending you a lot of spam
+ complete destruction of your reputation and loss of clients forever
+ for a full recovery from the damage you need tens of thousands of dollars

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life. The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.

Do you want this?

If you do not want the above problems, then before June 1, 2019, you need to send me 0.5 BTC to my Bitcoin wallet: 19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

How do I do all this to get this result:
1. I will send messages to 33 000 000 sites with contact forms with offensive messages with the address of your site, that is, in this situation, you and the spammer and insult people.
And everyone will not care that it is not you.
2. I’ll send messages to 19,000,000 email addresses and very intrusive advertisements for making money and offer a free iPhone with your website address pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com and your contact details.
And then send out abusive messages with the address of your site.
3. I will do aggressive spam on blogs, forums and other sites (in my database there are 35 978 370 sites and 315 900 sites from which you will definitely get a huge amount of abuse) of your site pa90117.cocolog-nifty.com.
After such spam, the spamhouse will turn its attention on you and after several abuses your host will be forced to block your account for life.
Your domain registrar will also block your domain permanently.

All of the above will result in blocking your domain and hosting account for life.
If you do not want to receive thousands of complaints from users and your hosting provider, then pay before June 1, 2019.
The price of your peace of mind is 0.5 BTC.
Otherwise, I will send your site through tens of millions of sites that will lead to the blocking of your site for life and you will lose everything and your reputation as well.
But get a reputation as a malicious spammer.

My bitcoin wallet:19ckouUP2E22aJR5BPFdf7jP2oNXR3bezL

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